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RE: Helping Waterloo out with an inframe ... - 74bassman - 04-19-2018
I was very impressed at Mr Hags. The people there are great answer questions, and don't make feel like a freakin idiot for asking questions. Mr Hag will be doing my I frame this year.
RE: Helping Waterloo out with an inframe ... - Waterloo - 04-22-2018
Well, we are still trudging along here at the Rawze School of Mechanics!
We went up to Atlanta and picked up some more parts, hit the dealer, Rush International, I can see why they have a bad reputation, nice guys, but not impressed. I'm going to order the parts from my dealer up in Michigan and just have them drop shipped here to Rawze's house.
The one bright spot was Global Truck Parts, cool bunch in there, know their stuff. One of the few remaining items I have yet to replace is my fan clutch. The dealer wanted $700 for theirs, Global had it for $500 NIB, no core required, so saved a few bucks there. My old fan clutch is the factory original, nearly 1 million miles on her, so replace it now and be done with it, before it fails.
Right now, my personal expenditures are running around $7500 with needed parts, with the new head, cam injector gear, etc, along with other miscellaneous stuff. The dealer came through with the in frame kit, 6 new injectors and two new cams, which arrived the other day. Those parts add up to $13,000... So, I figure to do this job in a shop, you are looking at an easy $28,000 with the machining of the block etc. Anyhow, just wanted to update you guys on the costs.
So, yesterday, Rawze and I machined the block, cutting the counterbore for the new and correct liners. We set the liners with the .020 shims, liner heights came out at .012 of an inch across the board with a half a thousandths variance on two liners. All in all, I would say that is pretty darn good. The old liners were all over the map, from .008 to .012 and no machining of the block. Failure was certain. Here are the new liners, the test fit, we then removed and cleaned all of the crap out of the block.
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We discussed the liner height issue, we were going to go for 14 but looking at these new carbon packing rings we decided .012 inches would be sufficient. Those rings are questionable to me and Rawze. I heard there have been issues with them snapping in some cases. They are very brittle, I think we made a wise decision. The 600hp motor will be retuned for 450hp and 1650 torque, no need for anymore than that with what I do. Going for fuel economy, I want my 8+ MPG back that I had prior to the first in frame.
Tomorrow I'll be under the truck rolling in the main bearings. Hopefully we will knock those out quickly and get to resetting the liners and hopefully installing the rods and pistons. Supposed to rain later in the day on Sunday, and Monday looks like a wash, more rain.
Rawze did measure the rods for wear, they came out well within specs showing little if any wear. So we should be good to go there when we install those.
Both of us are sore, Rawze's back is killing him, I lost the hitch in my getalong a few days ago. Right hip lower back, neither of us are 18 anymore, and crawling around on the ground and or laboring over the block in contorted positions is not fun. Neither of us are as flexible as we used to be.
This is the big suck, I have done more wrenching this year than driving. This is something that any of you new guys following my saga should know, with these EPA trucks, you are a mechanic first, driver second. It is so frustrating owning one of these trucks, just no fun anymore, continual downtime and labor with no pay coming in. I can see why guys give up and leave the industry, or just go drive a company truck.
And to add to the frustration of the piss poor in frame of two years ago, and having to redo all of this work, I believe I lost the AC condenser in my sleeper too. I saw what looks like freon soaking the two refrigerant lines under the cab where they enter the sleeper berth from below. Going to have to dig into that before recharging the AC system. It never end$.
At this point, I think I will go back to Michigan and open a shop. God knows I don't drive anymore.
RE: Helping Waterloo out with an inframe ... - 74bassman - 04-22-2018
I say the same thing when the truck is not running right, but when it is all seems right. I know those days don't happen very often. After you fix your truck and it is going down the road, you can't help but have sense of accomplishment. Knowing you fix it yourself. With some help from those who have the knowledge and skills.
RE: Helping Waterloo out with an inframe ... - Waterloo - 04-22-2018
Well started raining around an hour ago... Not much going to get done today. Supposed to rain until Monday evening or Tuesday. Sucks. One good thing, we can rest our backs.
RE: Helping Waterloo out with an inframe ... - Nilao - 04-22-2018
When I was there we set mine to .013. No issues so far...it just plain runs. I do some wrenching on her but only a couple days a month. I lost my fan clutch at 740k miles...thinking of replacing the bearings in the hub at a million just for peace of mind.
My front differential has developed a small drip from the bottom of the mating surfaces so I need to pull that and reseal it but I will take it down to my local driveline shop and have it gone through being its out anyways.
So I know what you mean about wrenching on them. Nothing like the work you have done to yours but we all can't be as lucky as you are...
RE: Helping Waterloo out with an inframe ... - Waterloo - 04-22-2018
(04-22-2018 )Nilao Wrote: but we all can't be as lucky as you are...
Not lucky, cursed.
RE: Helping Waterloo out with an inframe ... - Waterloo - 04-22-2018
Well, started raining at 0900 this morning... Not much getting done today, rain forecasted for tomorrow too... Kind of glad, we needed a break, I know our backs sure did.
RE: Helping Waterloo out with an inframe ... - BobsYourUncle - 04-22-2018
(04-22-2018 )Waterloo Wrote: Well, started raining at 0900 this morning... Not much getting done today, rain forecasted for tomorrow too... Kind of glad, we needed a break, I know our backs sure did.
So...
Beer and video games?
Video games and beer!
RE: Helping Waterloo out with an inframe ... - Waterloo - 04-25-2018
Well, finally quit raining... We installed the main bearings today, just finished a bit ago. The dealer that installed these looks to have just thrown them in. Doubtful he did it even close to what the book says. Pretty sad, here is a photo, L to R = 1-7.
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