(03-17-2020 )smorgan87 Wrote:  I paid 65k for mine with few less miles and idle free electric apu. Only had 20k on the carbon packing inframe job.

(03-17-2020 )smorgan87 Wrote:  Ive got a 15 prostar specd like that. Good truck for the most part. Fuel pump cost cummins a new motor about 20k mi b4 the warranty ended (and myself 3 weeks off work). Id plan on demandating that 2350 engine asap, plan on inframing in another 400k and reducing compression at that time (just my opinion, and u know what they say about those) I have plans to put in a 13 or 18 in mine to reduce engine stress from those 3.36 gears and slow Louisiana speed limits with 100k lb loads (i have to drive 63-65 in 10th or i have to drop to 9th and run 45ish) rawze will contest me on this but IMO a 10 speed is prty decent paper weight. In the 15s International fixed some of the air conditioning issues they had with the older models, it still has cab air struts but those are easily swapped to better equipment same as the older prostars. Other than that its a damn good truck for half the price of one them paccar products everbody raves about. Hope it helps.

(03-17-2020 )Lonestar10 Wrote:  Being 6' 2" I like the t680 to me it has a great dash design and more room behind the seats right now in the Lonestar the back of my seat is against the cabinet making me sit forward uncoy but is perfect for my legs. Also I think the engine sits better Underwood for being worked on. Also t680 has bunk escape doors available which also work great for taking stuff I /out and I haven't seen a real price difference between int and Kenworth speced with Cummins

(03-17-2020 )amermextrucker Wrote:  

(03-17-2020 )Lonestar10 Wrote:  Being 6' 2" I like the t680 to me it has a great dash design and more room behind the seats right now in the Lonestar the back of my seat is against the cabinet making me sit forward uncoy but is perfect for my legs. Also I think the engine sits better Underwood for being worked on. Also t680 has bunk escape doors available which also work great for taking stuff I /out and I haven't seen a real price difference between int and Kenworth speced with Cummins

I test drove 2 T680 's both had paccars . 1st was a 2014 600k with 10 spd. I gave them a heads up one day b4 dealer is really close to my house . Upon arrival it had a jumper hooked up to it ( batteries) finally started. Truck drove great and was beautiful , but it had a check engine light. Dealer told me they would fix it 2 days later i called salesman and it was sold.

2nd was T680 Paccar with a 13 spd it had 735k miles i just drove it for the heck of it and drove great .

I dont think i would of purchased either at that pointb in time i was unaware that they wouldnt have met my bank requirements. The requirements are 2014 and newer and under 500k miles.

(03-16-2020 )Rawze Wrote:  * inspect the overhead cam really well before purchase, even if you have to pay them a couple hundred bucks to pull the engine cover.

* expect to do a full egr-tune-up on it and a few days to go thru that egr, scr doser, DPF doser, and enigne.

* REPLACE THE GUTS of that fuel pump.. ASAP!. -- does not matter what campaign it has had done to it. -- Most of those campaigns were a joke!

* Almost all used truck stealers will take off the DOC and DPF during the sale (or before they put it on the lot),.. it will get them at least a month or 2 before to mask all the issues with them before the dpf issues set back in and by then, they could care less about you.

* expect to have issues with it. Expect to have to do all the neglected 250k mile maint. to it like re-torquing all the wheel bearings and all the other things that never get done properly.

* Do a proper overhead valve adjustment on it they day you get it.

* 36 on the iron is a big red flag. That is way too high! . it is a sign that the oil changes have been severely neglected.

* Like others have said... put zero faith in the overhaul. Does not necessarily mean its bad,. your chances are overall about 60/40 in your favor (unless it was done by a shop known for poor quality work) ... but If they jacked the price way up based on the fact it had an overhaul,.. i would walk away.

* 3.36's are a bit too tall for what you describe. You will be hard pressed to navigate local traffic and frequent stops with it geared like that . it will always feel a bit weak and the next thing you will be crying about is how to turn up the power instead of fre-gearing it. IT IS ALWAYS ALWAYS cheaper to re-gear it than to turn up the HP. keep that in mind... Also, even for that 7-0mph on those occasions. you would fair much better with a 13 and a set of 7.79's and it will easily still do 70 when needed. the ISX does not like low rpm, engine lasts much longer when driving it at 1600 than it does by pushing it hard below 1500. 1800+ is not a problem for it at all either.

- Personally, i would have to heavily consider what other moneys that will be needed to get it road worthy, re-gearing it properly for the application, and and all the other things before settling on an acceptable price vs. finding something more suited.

in the mean time, if you are set on owning a red engine,.. get yourself insite and an adapter + older laptop and get other tools you need to be on top of it instead of sitting on the side of the roads somewhere in a couple months wishing you had.

(03-21-2020 )amermextrucker Wrote:  Ok guys i took the truck on a final test drive. No CEL truck ran very well. As i stated in my previous posts truck had green coolant. I requested it be changed to RED , which they did. After running the truck for 40 miles or so i opened hood and noticed coolant in surge tank was moving not so much bubbling but it wasn't still in the surge tank. I didn't smell coolant anywhere and didn't see any leaks. Any thoughts ? thx.

(03-16-2020 )Rawze Wrote:  * inspect the overhead cam really well before purchase, even if you have to pay them a couple hundred bucks to pull the engine cover.

* expect to do a full egr-tune-up on it and a few days to go thru that egr, scr doser, DPF doser, and enigne.

* REPLACE THE GUTS of that fuel pump.. ASAP!. -- does not matter what campaign it has had done to it. -- Most of those campaigns were a joke!

* Almost all used truck stealers will take off the DOC and DPF during the sale (or before they put it on the lot),.. it will get them at least a month or 2 before to mask all the issues with them before the dpf issues set back in and by then, they could care less about you.

* expect to have issues with it. Expect to have to do all the neglected 250k mile maint. to it like re-torquing all the wheel bearings and all the other things that never get done properly.

* Do a proper overhead valve adjustment on it they day you get it.

* 36 on the iron is a big red flag. That is way too high! . it is a sign that the oil changes have been severely neglected.

* Like others have said... put zero faith in the overhaul. Does not necessarily mean its bad,. your chances are overall about 60/40 in your favor (unless it was done by a shop known for poor quality work) ... but If they jacked the price way up based on the fact it had an overhaul,.. i would walk away.

* 3.36's are a bit too tall for what you describe. You will be hard pressed to navigate local traffic and frequent stops with it geared like that . it will always feel a bit weak and the next thing you will be crying about is how to turn up the power instead of fre-gearing it. IT IS ALWAYS ALWAYS cheaper to re-gear it than to turn up the HP. keep that in mind... Also, even for that 7-0mph on those occasions. you would fair much better with a 13 and a set of 7.79's and it will easily still do 70 when needed. the ISX does not like low rpm, engine lasts much longer when driving it at 1600 than it does by pushing it hard below 1500. 1800+ is not a problem for it at all either.

- Personally, i would have to heavily consider what other moneys that will be needed to get it road worthy, re-gearing it properly for the application, and and all the other things before settling on an acceptable price vs. finding something more suited.

in the mean time, if you are set on owning a red engine,.. get yourself insite and an adapter + older laptop and get other tools you need to be on top of it instead of sitting on the side of the roads somewhere in a couple months wishing you had.

(03-21-2020 )amermextrucker Wrote:  ... i know that coolant can be mixed with ANY coolant color ...