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Why 20psi, not 15?? - JMBT - 03-21-2020
Hello all, I am finally headed home to do my rods and mains!! (CM2250 764,000mi) I had planned on doing them at 750k but a few unplanned loads made it 764k.
Anyhow my question is about pressure testing the coolant system when I drop the oil pan. I have read many times on the forum to pressure test at 20psi overnight. (Forgive my ignorance, but I have to ask), why do we test at 20psi if the system is designed for 15? Could the extra pressure during the test “cause” an OLD component that is not leaking at 15psi to start leaking?
I got to thinking about this when I recently replaced the pressure cap on my Onan genset. I looked up the part number on QuickServe, got it at Cummins and put it on. Over the next few days I noticed the coolant level was going down. I took the cabinet apart found a few leaking hose clamps, and fixed them. A few days later more leaks. Apart again replaced a hose and tightened some more clamps. A few days later more leaks.....that’s when I saw the new cap was 16psi and the old one was 13psi. I checked the number again on QuickServe it was the right part. I called the dealer where I got the cap and he said, yep they changed the pressure from 13 to 16psi but didn’t know why.
Long story short, no matter what I did I could not keep coolant in the little bastard at 16psi. I found a dealer that had a “new” 13psi cap, (the old number) and it has been leak free since.
Just wanted to see what you guys thought. Also if there is anything crazy you guys have experienced when doing rods and main on one of these motors, please let me know. Tear down starts Monday, wish me luck!!
RE: Why 20psi, not 15?? - Rawze - 03-21-2020
Stop over-thinking it,...
because you want to always test it at the upper end of the expected surge pressure, not the cap relief pressure.
If you get a bunch of leaks on it at 20 psi --- REPLACE WHAT FAILED! --- whatever fails was only going to put you on the side of the road in the near future.
RE: Why 20psi, not 15?? - JMBT - 03-21-2020
Thanks Rawze, that makes sense. You know me, I’m an over thinker.
RE: Why 20psi, not 15?? - smorgan87 - 03-21-2020
Once upon a time i was working on a residential ac system that kept leaking down. I never could find the leak with a sniffer because it was small and was in the condenser so the fan kept any gas from being detected. I filled her with nitrogen and about 50 psi from the systems max test psi i found it when the small pinhole became a not so small hole. Sometime parts need to be pushed to their max for diagnostics. In a trucks case like rawze said its better to fail it in ur garage/driveway than on the shoulder of i20 100 miles from nowhere.
RE: Why 20psi, not 15?? - JMBT - 03-22-2020
Thanks smorgan87! Keep your fingers crossed I don’t find any pinholes!!!