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Running rough

Was along for a ride with my buddies c15 hauling a light load, the response of that engine is just terrible, (at low rpm were they are supposed to be a lugging machine) it is a sluggish yellow lemon, where cat will really get stumped is when they make the first shift in a hill

Waterloo

I've owned both Cats and Detroits, I like the ISX the most out of the lot too. Now, the EGR/DPF/SCR crap, that is not Cummins fault, and it has been a damn expensive ride that still pisses me off... But I will be damn glad to get that fresh ISX back for a new start. Hopefully we can now go make some money.

in2trux

It should be refered to from now on as the UNFUNDED MANDATE!

gearhead

It will never go away everyone including cummins is making bank on that crap trust me. It could be done with only urea but that won't happen to much money to be made on parts.

Waterloo

(04-19-2016 )gearhead Wrote: It will never go away everyone including cummins is making bank on that crap trust me. It could be done with only urea but that won't happen to much money to be made on parts.

It is getting insane, the cost of these parts... Incredible how all of this is playing out, between the manufacturers and the government, it seems the goal is to drive this entire industry into a state of bankruptcy. At least that is my take, as there are few if any saying a word as to what is really happening out here with these new motors. The industry is silent.

Rig Wrench

(04-18-2016 )Texasdude74 Wrote: I wouldn't own that truck if you gave it to me. But that is just me.

What's not to like?
$8k cheaper than an ISX due to FET exemption.
300 pounds lighter.
Will easily out pull the ISX if that's important to you.
No federal laws are broken so the Feds are of no concern. It's even less of an issue being caught in CA with a glider versus a deleted emission truck.
Can be worked on at any Cat dealer without fear of being reported or modified. Try taking a new, deleted 2350 into Cummins or Peterbilt. The Peterbilt mechanics want to dry hump these things.
You can actually get into a Cat dealer in the first place if you need to because they don't have 30+ Check engine light trucks in front of you and another 20 waiting to have the engines replaced.
4 year unlimited mile/hour warranty(Yes this engine still qualifies) compared to none on a deleted ISX or 250k miles 24 months or 6250 hours on a non deleted. You can buy a 500k mile, 60 month or 12,500 hour extended warranty for an additional $14k. Then the glider is $22k less expensive.
Fuel pump failure is $150 and one hour down and can be fixed on the side of the road versus $42k and nine weeks of downtime.
Well over one mpg above a deleted ISX in this application, 1.5-2 mpg above non deleted.
Parts bill for total over haul with new, not reman head, cam and turbos: $18,600 versus $26,500 for a 2350.
850k-1.3M mile life span in this application versus 6k-359k miles. That's right, the current record holder for longevity of a 2250/2350 in an open rack car hauler is 359k miles. It's a crime against humanity how many ISX have catastrophically failed in car haulers. Very few make it to even 300k before spitting out rods or burning oil like a two stroke.

So why, exactly, should I buy a 2350?

Is there even one, single advantage? Besides the option to leave it stock and run California? Which I don't consider an upside!
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I like your truck texasdude, regardless of your reasoning for building it that way.(You obviously take alot of pride in your truck).Different strokes for different folks. I can appreciate anypiece of equipment that someone puts that level of work and thought (not to mention $$$) into.
There is no 1 truck that is perfect for every application. My truck has a hood, big power, low gears, and heavy axles. I net more than many on here gross though. If I was haulin van or reefer or something of the like, I'd probly set up a slope/bubble nose light spec tractor. But I don't. You can't just say its stupid to do that work, someone has to haul the dirt, just like someone has to move store goods,automobiles, gasoline, ect. and on and on.
Everyone is always rippin on the trucks with a big hood and a flat nose, its ignorant to think that its there just for cosmetics. The big engine bay is there to to support larger radiators, charge air coolers, and more airflow around the engine for high load applications. In turn most high load applications also come through with higher power ratings as well
There's no right or wrong, I have my truck speced for my application and it works well, just as I'm sure Texasdude's will for his and rawze's does for his application
RW

Wiseman

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There's no right or wrong, I have my truck speced for my application and it works well, just as I'm sure Texasdude's will for his and rawze's does for his application
RW
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Well said! We should respect each other's opinions . Like it or not .

in2trux

If I'm hauling cars I'm not worrying about mpg because you're never going to get great fuel economy dragging a rack. That being said, the ISX would do just fine.
I like Cats, but the reasons for going in that direction are a bit myopic. A fresh ISX tuned and driven right can and will go 1M miles. Last time I checked, nobody's giving away
Cat parts.

Texasdude74

Think this hood or bumper make any significant difference in aerodynamics?