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Rawze · 08-17-2023, **(Subject: {Garbage-Tuning Box} on a X15 )**

(08-17-2023 )Keystone Cattleman Wrote: ...
I'll get to work on it. Thanks

I think forum member 'rollinCoal' mentioned that he was going to give u a ring as well, when I spoke with him yesterday about other things.

Keystone Cattleman · 08-20-2023, **(Subject: {Garbage-Tuning Box} on a X15 )**

(08-17-2023 )Rawze Wrote:
(08-17-2023 )Keystone Cattleman Wrote: ...
I'll get to work on it. Thanks

I think forum member 'rollinCoal' mentioned that he was going to give u a ring as well, when I spoke with him yesterday about other things.

I have not heard anything from him...

MommaBurt · 08-20-2023, **(Subject: {Garbage-Tuning Box} on a X15 )**

Fun fact about the pi44-p00R box on an X15. The injector trim function in the ECM will not only render the box ineffective over time, but you will make less than stock eventually. The ECM knows extra fuel is going in and will pull fueling on what it thinks are 'hot' injectors. Never buy that garbage.

Keystone Cattleman · 08-21-2023, **(Subject: {Garbage-Tuning Box} on a X15 )**

(08-20-2023 )MommaBurt Wrote: Fun fact about the pi44-p00R box on an X15. The injector trim function in the ECM will not only render the box ineffective over time, but you will make less than stock eventually. The ECM knows extra fuel is going in and will pull fueling on what it thinks are 'hot' injectors. Never buy that garbage.

I'm not sure what box that is? The Pissburgh one?

RollinCoal · 08-22-2023, **(Subject: {Garbage-Tuning Box} on a X15 )**

(08-21-2023 )Keystone Cattleman Wrote:
(08-20-2023 )MommaBurt Wrote: Fun fact about the pi44-p00R box on an X15. The injector trim function in the ECM will not only render the box ineffective over time, but you will make less than stock eventually. The ECM knows extra fuel is going in and will pull fueling on what it thinks are 'hot' injectors. Never buy that garbage.

I'm not sure what box that is? The Pissburgh one?

Basically any of them, the trucks are smarter and will start to pull fuel,
So when you do take it off you will more than likely have to reset the injector learned data
The trucks dont use "injector codes" anymore they learn the injector and add or trim the fuel as needed

Bengy88 · 08-22-2023, **(Subject: {Garbage-Tuning Box} on a X15 )**

In other words there is no such thing as a plug in fix. If there was then tuners would be non existent. It doesn’t matter if it’s a resistor instead of a barometric pressure sensor on a Detroit, a dod delete box on a gm product, or a plug in power product ordered from the state of Pittsburgh for your Cummins, They are all a joke and there is actually a right way to do things….. and the right way is always cheaper in the end.

RollinCoal · 08-23-2023, **(Subject: {Garbage-Tuning Box} on a X15 )**

(08-22-2023 )Bengy88 Wrote: In other words there is no such thing as a plug in fix. If there was then tuners would be non existent. It doesn’t matter if it’s a resistor instead of a barometric pressure sensor on a Detroit, a dod delete box on a gm product, or a plug in power product ordered from the state of Pittsburgh for your Cummins, They are all a joke and there is actually a right way to do things….. and the right way is always cheaper in the end.

Correct, edit the ecm the proper way

Keystone Cattleman · 08-25-2023, **(Subject: {Garbage-Tuning Box} on a X15 )**

{Piss Powrr} is no longer a Box. It is a complete reprogramming of the ECM. {Puke-deeYe} is a plug in.

Bengy88 · 08-26-2023, **(Subject: {Garbage-Tuning Box} on a X15 )**

(08-25-2023 )Keystone Cattleman Wrote: {Piss Powrr} is no longer a Box. It is a complete reprogramming of the ECM. {Puke-deeYe} is a plug in.

Either way neither of them are worth one single f*ck.