Maxxforce

[Brewster64]

I almost bought one a couple years ago dirt cheap. Local IH salesman told me off the record that once deleted they are trouble free. I did some research, if you set it under 450 HP, say even 430, 1650 tq, they have actually been alot more dependable, they really build soot over 450, so much so that in an unused 2013 I looked at which was on the lot for 2 years Navistar offered upgrade to 5 year warranty from 3 for free if I set it at 450 or less. Also 2012 was the year for much better egrs and coolers, all 2013 s had em, way less failures. Don't waste your time calling Diesel Shmucks, they got mad and hung up on me when I asked them if their delete was anything more than disabling egr and shutting off engine protections. (For a measly 4 Grand) They also warranty nothing, so when it blows up, just strip the truck, or go find a wrecker motor. N13 (new) is exactly same motor with less EGR, and scr added, and it's been a good engine from what I hear..so, cut some soot, and it might live.