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Outside of Chinese copies/fakes, I have never seen repeating turbo failures that were not caused by something else. They are generally pretty tough unless they have been abused in some way.

The fastest way to put yourself out of buisness is to take it to the stealershits. Sounds to me that is the biggest problem more-so than the resulting failures. Don't be quick to blame the equipment on incompetent repairs. A Prostar is one of the most profitable, most fuel efficient trucks out there for highway use. This is especially true if it has a red engine in it. If you can't make it in one of those, there is no hope for doing any better with something else. I can bet you that I would have that truck making me a ton of money if I owned it,... and if one man can do it,.. so can someone else. It is all a matter of know-how.



You need to first find out what has failed on them with some detail + pictures and why.

Maybe you should take the truck to Mr.Hags shop or Gearhead and have those problems diagnosed and some help investigating them properly?.

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More details would help. In 2011, there were trucks with only DPF (CM871 engines) and trucks that had SCR(CM2250 engines). What kind of engine do you have? DPF only? or DPF and SCR? --

Mileage?

Where you have taken it and some details on each failure, etc?

Is the engine de-mandated? -- Any of those crappy "delete kits" installed? -- or is it 100% stock with the emissions system still functioning?

has anyone changed the HP settings from factory?

Are there any after-market components on it like after-market egr cooler or CAC or other things?

The first step towards real success is to throw that "take it to someone else when the CEL light comes on" in the trash can and get together with people who can help you learn to take control of your own problems.

The second step is to listen and follow those truck owners who are already very successful, put any ego aside, and be prepared to get your hands dirty + learn new things. The wheel of success with these aero trucks with red engines in them has already been invented, you only need to follow it. I have met guys who were living in their trucks, family left them, completely broke, can't make their Leese payments any more, are down more than they haul freight, and have nothing left but their dignity. I have met and helped plenty of those guys over the years. Unfortunately, that is where most truck owners finally start to realize that what they are, and have been doing simply does not work in todays trucking industry. There are at least 2 dozen truck owners on this forum alone that have been right there with you, that later have become so successful in what they do, that they now go out of their way to help others do the same thing. The most difficult struggle for most O/O's these days is to stop blaming their equipment and everything/everyone around them and to start looking in the mirror, telling themselves that only they can ultimately solve their problems and make themselves successful again.

You should have done this after the very first failure, long before you have gotten to the point you are at now. A repeating failure that is costly should never have happened a second time. if I owned it, I would have torn that engine into a thousand pieces if necessary to find out why it failed to begin with.

I had someone call me up not 3 days ago that said something went through their turbo, chewed up the turbine, destroying it. Then it happened a second time in a row a week later after its replacement. I asked them if they pulled the manifold and all the other components apart upstream to see what broke loose, and they said "no one bothered"... Well,.. I told them,.. expect another failure, that is the path you and your mechanic choose. I would have pulled every single component off that bit#$tch and found where it came from, and I would have pulled injectors out and boroscoped it, looking for a valve to be cracked if nothing else was found. Turbos aren't cheap and neither is sitting roadside a second or third time.

That is how I feel about repeating failures. Sometimes they are not avoidable, nor foreseen, but you had be assured upon that second time,... I would have gotten to the bottom of it long before putting another expensive component on it.

I PM'd you my number if you want to chat.