Heading to mr haggs for monday morning

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(02-04-2018 )DKenworth Wrote:  

(02-04-2018 )Blake Wrote:  I called Mr Haggs about average cost for inframe and was told 18,000 to 24,000 depending on a few things.

Dang, that's a ton of money , I thought it would be around $15K...

Not trying to defend the guy but people don't look at the picture/price properly there at all (this is not directed towards anyone in particular here) ..[/size][/b].

MOST of the less expensive shops get about $4500 - $5500 labor. It is a 40+ hour job MINIMUM when done right and usually end up going over by the time it gets buttoned back up and on the road. Hag is not different. He is right in the ball-park with labor than most all the other shops out there on inframe labor costs. One difference is that he is giong to take his time and do it right. He is not taking any shortcuts and he is going to counter-bore it and raise liner heights, and even warranty it even if it is MM'd. He does a lot of things that other shops just don;t take the time to get right.

Considering he is not charging ANY MORE AT ALL what other shops do in labor,.. I think that is quite commendable.


WHY does it cost more when he does one vs other places? -- Because HE IS USING ALL GENUINE CERTIFIED PARTS!. Considering that -- HE IS CHEAP when it comes to an inframe. Try getting that done at a dealershit where they will screw up half the job and charge a man almost $40,000 by the time they get out of that half-arssed un-trustworthy mess. He has said to many people that if they want it cheaper,.. GO BUY THE PARTS AND PAY FOR THEM YOURSELF, as it is not the labor that makes it so expensive --- but HE IS NOT GOING TO PUT IN PARTS OFF EBAY OR FROM CHINE OR AFTERMARKET and give you ANY warranty. He can't take that kind of risk. He is not going to be the target and victim of some shi#t 3rd party parts. So,.. IF YOU can get the "CERTIFIED" components with "FULL WARRANTY ON THEM" from the engine maker -- "CHEAPER" than he can buy and offer them them for,.. you are welcome to do so and bring them over. Otherwise --- DON'T BITCH ABOUT THE PRICE BECAUSE HE IS GOING TO DO IT RIGHT AND STAND BEHIND IT UNLIKE ANYWHERE ELSE I HAVE SEEN SO FAR!.

And if someone owns a truck can't afford roughly 20k for a decent inframe --- THEY ARE DOING SOMETHING VERY WRONG IN THEIR TRUCKING BUSINESS!!!! --- PERIOD!.

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I have seen a LOT of bills that truck owners have shown me for inframes over the years. I have seen my share of $10-$12k inframes... EVERY ONE THAT WAS THAT CHEAP was nothing but total shi#t! with no-name brand kits and they almost always never bothered to replace the head (but polish on the old one and it did not last for crap after) or do ANYTHING worth a damn even half-arssed right. -- SO for those fools and penny-pincher dumbarsses out there ... Go ahead and jump over that dollar to save a dime,.. Mr. hag is too damn busy for that BS and there are too many people he has to already turn away as it is. This is because he is always swamped!. He does not have time to to deal with the likes of some stupid arssehole who is going to nickel and dime the s$it out of some of the best quality work that money can buy.


Like I say,.. not trying to defend the guys prices or justify his place,.. I am just stating what I have seen and what I know, especially based on what I see people pay.

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(02-04-2018 )DKenworth Wrote:  Well, another question is worth to invest tht much money in '07 KWT600 cummins isx870, or maybe better to find a newer truck? So far this 07 KW is money maker, but has 1.1 million miles, which worries me a little, what you all think guys?

An upgrade form a 2006 truck to something new like say a 2350, there are slight fuel mileage gains (after the newer truck is de-mandated) but the operating costs are going to be higher too. it would be a toss-up. Going form a CM870 to say a 2010 or 2011 CM871 truck,.. That would be the same or better gain in fuel mileage but have the same operating costs than what you have now. - That is likely the road I would go myself but that is just me. I don't want to own newer equipment if it costs me more money and no gain in profit at all to make up for it myself. For me, it is simply all about the money long term I got to keep after that next million miles down the road.