EGR Delete Info -- Educate yourself

[tree98]

Need more info. What exactly was the code? What is the engine doing? How did you read the codes? Does insite work on that engine? I'm gonna guess it doesn't, probably can't use quickserve either unless you could get an esn from an actual Cummins 6.7 that's identical to yours, if they even exist.

[Johnny5]

I began trucking a year ago as my final career ( financial services for 25 years prior). I decided to buy a truck 2 months ago which was de-mandated a couple years ago by the previous owner. I didn't know what that meant initially but when he told me, it resonated with me since I had egr problems with both company trucks I drove.
Well, my truck quit on me in the middle of the road last week. It was towed to a shop where they determined the ecm was shutting off communication and shutting down. There was a code pointing to a sensor. The sensor was switched out. The truck then ran for 26 minutes before it shut down again.
We have been in contact with the guy who de-mandated the truck. He wanted another 5,500 for programming plus the cost of a new ecm to fix it.
I found a different guy who said to get a new ecm installed and he would run the program for only 1800.00. Since that was less than 5500, I began going down that road. The mechanic installed the new ecm and the new de-mandate guy got online to reprogram. He found the ecm was blank and said it needed to go to the dealer for original programming and only then could he tune it.
That brings me to today. The mechanic took it to the Peterbilt dealer (2013 Pete 587 with paccar mx13 - 600,000 miles). The mechanic told them to use the programming on the old ecm for the new ecm. I was encouraged.
I went to the dealership today and the service writer told me he was going to check with another guy Monday morning, but that chances are they can't transfer the programming from the old ecm to the new one.

I've been out of work now for a week and a half. I have read a lot of the articles on this wonderful site and am getting a feel for what is going on. Still being so new to this I really need help to do the things quickly to get out of this mess and get my truck on the road.
Any of your wisdom would go a long way.
Thanks so much
John

[tree98]

Wow, your getting the classic run around by the idiots at the stealorships that aren't fit to put a bicycle chain back on!! I wish I knew more about your engine, you say it's a rebadged Cummins but I don't know if any of the Cummins software will work on it. What happened to the ECM ? Do you still have it? Honestly it sounds like your dealing with a bunch of clowns. You can bet your ass that program you had was complete garbage. Maybe someone here knows more about your engine. You could try Unilevers on this forum, send him a pm. He can be very hard to get ahold of though.

[Rawze]

gurentee its a bad program that will severely shorten the life of the engine in the long term. - i would not give them a single dime.

- Besides that, someone is WAAAAAYYY over-charging you for it. -- Lastly,.. any sort of custom programming, you should have a copy of it for yourself in case the ecm ever goes bad. - all the delete ppl that I know of that actually do d decent job, are more than willing to give u copy of your program for safe keeping. -- your dealing with some real crooks there!

Assuming you live in a foreign country where that stuff is legal ... PM 'Mommaburt' or 'Unilevers'

here is some reading for your education: http://rawze.com/forums/showthread.php?t...5#pid13255

if it were an ISX, then you can do all that stuff for yourself (re-flash it, etc.etc. even de-mandate it), as the software is all over the internet (free if u know wher to look) and the adapter is only few hundred bucks.

[Johnny5]

(04-25-2020 )tree98 Wrote:  Wow, your getting the classic run around by the idiots at the stealorships that aren't fit to put a bicycle chain back on!! I wish I knew more about your engine, you say it's a rebadged Cummins but I don't know if any of the Cummins software will work on it. What happened to the ECM ? Do you still have it? Honestly it sounds like your dealing with a bunch of clowns. You can bet your ass that program you had was complete garbage. Maybe someone here knows more about your engine. You could try Unilevers on this forum, send him a pm. He can be very hard to get ahold of though.

Thanks for replying. I PM'd Uni as soon as I received my invitation to join. I still have the old ecm. I'm reading everything possible and am completely enamored by RAWZE and you all. I am becoming one of the educated but as Rawze says, there are mountains to climb here. I have an immediate need to get this thing back on the road hopefully tomorrow after being out for almost two weeks.

Thanks again for your reply.

[Chamberpains]

try to PM Mommaburt
He works for Unilever

[Unilevers]

your getting hosed - i replied to your PM

[Pete23]

I’ve got a 2016 International with Cummins isx15.
Took it in for a EGR/DPF delete..I know I know I prolly shouldn’t have :)
After delete my idle rpm is higher than normal and my MPG went way down! Used to be close to 7 now around 5mpg. I believe it’s something with the ecm tune?? I had this same shop do a delete on my 2012 Pete about a year ago and haven’t had any problems.
Any help?????
Much appreciated:)

[tree98]

Bad tune, don't drive it. PM unilever or MommaBurt to get a safe tune. Welcome to the bad delete club.
Also get your other truck re programmed, the one you haven't had any problems with, yeah it's also F@#&ed. The real question is, are you going to listen to the advice your given or are you going to argue about it??