Oil pan debris

[386lover]

I pulled the oil pan today to shim the pump and this is what I found in the bottom of it. The Brown plastic is somewhat translucent, I'm not sure what it came from. The small metal slivers can be picked up with a magnet and I'm wondering if that came from my cams when they went bad. The large black plastic pieces are part of a big zip tie.

[snailexpress]

Looks like oil spray nozzle. Check them all from the bottom with good light.

[Nilao]

The brown pieces are definitely part of the piston cooling jet. I'd replace them all if one has started to fall apart. If you lose a jet you will lose the piston in short order. The metal almost looks like a gear tooth. Hard to tell. Almost looks like a piece of the rings also.

[Mr Hagg]

If that is a 2250 or 2350 might be plastic from the injector harness. They are bad about braking..As far as the metal not sure looks like bearing from camshaft if it spun one......

[386lover]

It's a 871. I did replace one of the cams because the lobes on it were literally flaking off

[Hammerhead]

(04-14-2017 )Mr Hagg Wrote:  If that is a 2250 or 2350 might be plastic from the injector harness. They are bad about braking..As far as the metal not sure looks like bearing from camshaft if it spun one......

(04-14-2017 )386lover Wrote:  It's a 871. I did replace one of the cans because the lobes on it were literally flaking off

Mr Hagg, if you replaced a component, i.e. a broken cam gear, would it not be as part of the repair procedure to remove the oil pan to retrieve the broken piece? As this situation shows, it would remove the mystery of future repairs now possibly chasing "ghosts".
I realize there is more than just the metal pieces, it is more of a generalization.

[Hammerhead]

(04-14-2017 )Mr Hagg Wrote:  If that is a 2250 or 2350 might be plastic from the injector harness. They are bad about braking..As far as the metal not sure looks like bearing from camshaft if it spun one......

(04-14-2017 )386lover Wrote:  It's a 871. I did replace one of the cans because the lobes on it were literally flaking off

Mr Hagg, if you replaced a component, i.e. a broken cam gear, would it not be as part of the repair procedure to remove the oil pan to retrieve the broken piece? As this situation shows, it would remove the mystery of future repairs now possibly chasing "ghosts".
I realize there is more than just the metal pieces, it is more of a generalization.

[386lover]

(04-14-2017 )Hammerhead Wrote:  

(04-14-2017 )Mr Hagg Wrote:  If that is a 2250 or 2350 might be plastic from the injector harness. They are bad about braking..As far as the metal not sure looks like bearing from camshaft if it spun one......

(04-14-2017 )386lover Wrote:  It's a 871. I did replace one of the cans because the lobes on it were literally flaking off

Mr Hagg, if you replaced a component, i.e. a broken cam gear, would it not be as part of the repair procedure to remove the oil pan to retrieve the broken piece? As this situation shows, it would remove the mystery of future repairs now possibly chasing "ghosts".
I realize there is more than just the metal pieces, it is more of a generalization.

It was a shop that replaced the cam last year, I have since then become more confident in doing my own repairs as well as obtaining access to shop that I can use any time. Had it been me doing the repair I would have pulled the pan then, but I (wrongly) assumed that they would use as much care as I do.

[386lover]

(04-14-2017 )Nilao Wrote:  The brown pieces are definitely part of the piston cooling jet. I'd replace them all if one has started to fall apart. If you lose a jet you will lose the piston in short order. The metal almost looks like a gear tooth. Hard to tell. Almost looks like a piece of the rings also.

Where on the cooling nozzle does the plastic come from? As far as I can see they are a bent metal tube that are connected to the oil passages on the block with a banjo bolt. CM871