Couple newbie questions...

[Kc0stp]

Picking up my first truck (2014 Kenworth T700) next weekend and couple quick newbie questions.

First when it comes to climbing a hill with the 20psi max for fuel economy is there a speed when your better off just going full throttle due to limited fuel gains in comparison?

On the T700 it's currently a single bunk, will I just need to bolt in an upper bunk or will I also need additional brackets (won't be for a while but good info to know). And haven't had a chance to chase wires yet but are the 2 antennas on the sleeper strictly am/fm or cb as well?

[Kc0stp]

Also anything drastically different with an egr tuneup on the 2350 or same basic process as in the video rawze made?

[Chamberpains]

Keeping your boost under 20 or at the lowest possible psi is not completely about fuel mileage. Its all about not abusing the most expensive and important piece on the truck. The harder you push that engine, the faster it wears out. Also the harder you push that engine, the harder everything else is working which in turn wears them out faster.

So yes, you get a benefit of fuel mileage with keeping it under 20 or less but the biggest savings in not having to repair or take the time to repair all the other things you abused when you decide to push your equipment to its limits. There is only lost profits in trying to win the race up the hill. Trucking for profit is not about winning any speed races. Its ALL about keeping as much money by the end of the move. And not beating your equipment up will always pay WAY more.

As for the bunk you'll have to check with the dealership and maybe find another truck (maybe pictures online if you can't physically get in to one) and see what all you need. There are slight differences with each model and some are custom built depending on what you want done.


As far as the EGR tune-up... https://quickserve.cummins.com/info/index.html
Sign up for free (register the ESN off the valve cover of your engine) and study the parts that are involved on you particular engine. Your system is setup differently than the 1 in Rawze video but basically the same concept.. EGR = soot return to engine. EGR tune up = pulling EGR system apart periodically and cleaning and replacing sooted up parts in the EGR system.

Also quickserve has everything you can ever want on your exact engine and how to repair/replace everything that has to do with the engine. If you run in to questions on specifics of doing something stop on in here and ask us.

[tree98]

Your also gonna need to buy an inline adapter and get a laptop to put insite on. This is a must if you own a cummins.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/INLINE-6-Data-L...890.l49292

That link is the inline adapter and insite 7.6.2 so all you'll need is a laptop with a USB port

[Rawze]

The question that runs thru my head when I read their post is...


What type of freight are they going to be hauling?... and does the truck have the correct specs for profitability for this?

things like correct roof height? correct rear axle ratios?, what tranny?, what other options, etc.etc.etc.


And then ... how many miles on it already and how much money and work are they going to invest themselves into doing to get it reliably road ready again? .. or if they are just another future victim of the 85% failures due to under-educated ways ... the ones that cause new Owner-ops to dance around with a shiny-new-penny attitude and all of the blind-man's bubble, thinking that the truck is somehow magically going to get sold with it ready to roll freight right from the seller lot like a complete fool. - You know .. things like doing all the 250k mile maintenance items like re-torquing all the wheel bearings front and back, replacing shocks, gear box and tranny oil, going thru the entire EGR and emissions systems and replacing all sensors + cleaning everything out, running the overhead valve adjustment, inspecting the cam thoroughly, checking/inspecting cab shocks and mounts, replacing the guts in the fuel pump right away if its more than 400k miles old, etc.etc.etc.

And then what about good business planning?... expected load times, truck paymants and expenses, etc.etc.

And then how much experience under someone's belt they have driving already?... and how much have they practiced how to slow down and save fuel with the truck they are already driving instead of putting the fuel all the way onto the floor like a dumbarsse due to horrible company-driver, truck-and-fuel-mileage-killing habbits?


Then there are the things that others pointed out... Investing in some basic tooling to wrench on it with, a laptop and adapter to troubleshoot it and keep it away from the network of OEM rip-off nitwits, etc.etc.

Owning a truck is a vastly different career than driving one.

- those are the things that run thru my head any ways.

[Bward]

(01-17-2021 )Rawze Wrote:  The question that runs thru my head when I read their post is...


What type of freight are they going to be hauling?... and does the truck have the correct specs for profitability for this?

things like correct roof height? correct rear axle ratios?, what tranny?, what other options, etc.etc.etc.


And then ... how many miles on it already and how much money and work are they going to invest themselves into doing to get it reliably road ready again? .. or if they are just another future victim of the 85% failures due to under-educated ways ... the ones that cause new Owner-ops to dance around with a shiny-new-penny attitude and all of the blind-man's bubble, thinking that the truck is somehow magically going to get sold with it ready to roll freight right from the seller lot like a complete fool. - You know .. things like doing all the 250k mile maintenance items like re-torquing all the wheel bearings front and back, replacing shocks, gear box and tranny oil, going thru the entire EGR and emissions systems and replacing all sensors + cleaning everything out, running the overhead valve adjustment, inspecting the cam thoroughly, checking/inspecting cab shocks and mounts, replacing the guts in the fuel pump right away if its more than 400k miles old, etc.etc.etc.

And then what about good business planning?... expected load times, truck paymants and expenses, etc.etc.

And then how much experience under someone's belt they have driving already?... and how much have they practiced how to slow down and save fuel with the truck they are already driving instead of putting the fuel all the way onto the floor like a dumbarsse due to horrible company-driver, truck-and-fuel-mileage-killing habbits?


Then there are the things that others pointed out... Investing in some basic tooling to wrench on it with, a laptop and adapter to troubleshoot it and keep it away from the network of OEM rip-off nitwits, etc.etc.

Owning a truck is a vastly different career than driving one.

- those are the things that run thru my head any ways.

I am also a newbie on here and looking to get Insite ver 8.7.0.86 set up on my computer. I have downloaded the program and have used it to look up a code I am getting. Will the INLINE 6 Data Link Adapter work with it? Also do I need to purchase a license key? I will only be working on my Rig.

[tree98]

You want version 7.6.2 not any other. The link I posted has this version and also the keygen you'll need to activate it. A lot of the 8.x versions out there aren't stable and not needed on an engine as old as yours.

[Chamberpains]

What model and year cummins are you gonna be hooking in to? If it's the cm2350 and older model then you don't need insite v8.xxxx You can use Insite 7.6.2 sp5 like most of us use.

If its an 2017-2018 x15 model or newer then you will need V8.xxx

An inline 6 will work with all versions of Insite

[Kc0stp]

(01-17-2021 )Rawze Wrote:  The question that runs thru my head when I read their post is...


What type of freight are they going to be hauling?... and does the truck have the correct specs for profitability for this?

things like correct roof height? correct rear axle ratios?, what tranny?, what other options, etc.etc.etc.


And then ... how many miles on it already and how much money and work are they going to invest themselves into doing to get it reliably road ready again? .. or if they are just another future victim of the 85% failures due to under-educated ways ... the ones that cause new Owner-ops to dance around with a shiny-new-penny attitude and all of the blind-man's bubble, thinking that the truck is somehow magically going to get sold with it ready to roll freight right from the seller lot like a complete fool. - You know .. things like doing all the 250k mile maintenance items like re-torquing all the wheel bearings front and back, replacing shocks, gear box and tranny oil, going thru the entire EGR and emissions systems and replacing all sensors + cleaning everything out, running the overhead valve adjustment, inspecting the cam thoroughly, checking/inspecting cab shocks and mounts, replacing the guts in the fuel pump right away if its more than 400k miles old, etc.etc.etc.

And then what about good business planning?... expected load times, truck paymants and expenses, etc.etc.

And then how much experience under someone's belt they have driving already?... and how much have they practiced how to slow down and save fuel with the truck they are already driving instead of putting the fuel all the way onto the floor like a dumbarsse due to horrible company-driver, truck-and-fuel-mileage-killing habbits?


Then there are the things that others pointed out... Investing in some basic tooling to wrench on it with, a laptop and adapter to troubleshoot it and keep it away from the network of OEM rip-off nitwits, etc.etc.

Owning a truck is a vastly different career than driving one.

- those are the things that run thru my head any ways.

Let's see if I can answer these in order

Going to be running mainly reefer occasionally dry van, 525 cummins 2350, 13spd manual, 3.42 rears, high rise sleeper with full fairings, 232 wb and from a dry van fleet.

Sitting at 920k miles with 180k on documented overhaul and clutch, and have extensive maintenence records for truck since it was new. former medium duty mechanic do plan on doing most work myself. For its age its in really good shape but will be getting egr tuneup (including all sensors) asap and all fluids changed valve adjustment within next 20k miles.

Business planning wise, 20cpm set aside strictly for maintenence until it hits 30k in the bank, 60cpm to me upto 7k a month. Any additional profit reinvested into the company and truck payment is well under the 1k/ month mark.

Experience wise, had cdl for 7 years and been towing my personal racecar for an additional 5 (dually +51' trailer 35k lbs) I'll be the first to admit in class a I've been your typical company driver not caring about fuel mileage. However personal vehicles I back it down for fuel milage but always followed the assumption its better to get off the hill asap vs lingering and not using full throttle.