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Rawze · 04-07-2021, **(Subject: Moving Home )**

(04-07-2021 )RocketScott Wrote: The place I talked to sounded ok on the phone. He actually knew about the older big cam engines and wouldn't commit to working on it till he knew he could get the parts

I'm open to suggestions for other builders. Talked to a place in Cali that just gave me a price of $10k without even talking specifics about what engine I had. Another place in Colorado that was going to be around $14k

Is it ok to name names to see if anyone has heard of them?

I am sure if someone were to ask 100 places if they "do a good job".. they will all swear to it... They will all swear they are the only game in town "who can do it right" and "who know what they are doing". - Sounds to me like most ppl simply get caught up in that fantasy land instead of doing some real investigating for their trust and money. - All I am trying to do is open someone's eyes to this fact, but most don't seem to be listening.

AN ISX IS NOT A BIG-CAM... NOT NO WAY, NO HOW, EVEN REMOTELY CLOSE TO ONE AND MOST MECHANICS THAT CAN BUILD OLDER ENGINES HAVE THAT OLDER ENGINE MENTALITY AND WILL SIMPLY DO A COMPLETE S$IT JOB OF AN ISX EVERY TIME!.

-- HOW ABOUT ASKING THEM WHAT LINER HEIGHT THAT THEY NORMALLY SET THE LINERS TO DURING THE INFRAME?. IF THEY SAY FACTORY HEIGHT OR 0.010" OR SOME OTHER BULLS$IT (or even far worse, they don't counter-bore unless necessary), THEN YOU KNOW WITHOUT ANY DOUBT THEY ARE COMPLETELY GODDAMN CLUELESS ON HOW TO PROPERLY EXTEND THE LONGEVITY OF AN ISX!

-- HOW ABOUTASKING THE MECHANIC IF THEY LET THE HEAD SIT OVER NIGHT SO THAT THE HEAD-GASKET CAN CRUSH?.. THEN RE-TORQUING THE HEAD THE NEXT DAY BEFORE DOING THE FINAL 90-DEGREES ON THE BOLTS? --- HOW MUCH YOU WANT TO BET THAT 90% OF THOSE SUPER-DUPER SHOPS MENTIONED HAVE NO DONNA$MN CLUE ABOUT THIS EITHER... THIS IS WHAT YOU GET. . All your likely to get is an answer of "that ain't necessary" or some other stupid excuse bulls$it.

-- Those are just 2 things right there that I would run like hell away from any shop who claims they know how to build ISX engines. MOST ALL SHOPS ANY MORE ARE COMPLETELY CLUELESS on how to build an old engine up so that it will last another full million miles its second time around. - Sure, Most places that do inframes and out-of-frames can build the engine. But if no extra steps are taken to extend its longevity, IT WILL NOT LAST MORE THAN A COUPLE 3 YEARS OR SO AND FAIL AGAIN. This is because most any more have no clue how to do all the extra steps necessary.. they are not "in the manual" per-say so they could care less for anything beyond the minimum that a spec-sheet says. To me, THAT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE!.. NOT ONE DAMN BIT!.. ESPECIALLY WHEN YOUR TALKING ABOUT DROPPING $20,000+ INTO AN ENGINE. - YOU NEED A RETURN ON THAT MILLION MILE INVESTMENT, NOT ANOTHER FAILURE 60% OR 70% sooner than expected!

BTW: Why are you pulling the engine out of it any ways?. A rebuild rarely warrants pulling the entire entire engine out... just curious.

AND since your pulling the entire engine out... why not just ship it to Mr. Hags? so that you can know it was done 110% right?. At least they will do all the things talked about on here... that is exactly what they specialize in. Yeah, there is a wait time on it, but that wait time is well warranted of your simply looking for someone to do it all for ya. NO, I am not trying to advertise for them... it is simply damnned near impossible to find a shop that i can recommend with confidence any more these days, willing to do all 100% everythign right and consistently without any compromise. They got enough business without me saying it to any one. If there were other shops that I could vouch for genuinely then I would mention them,... but unfortunately .. there is not.

Here is some related discussion on this topic. I suggest you educate yourself before having anybody touch your equipment. http://rawze.com/forums/showthread.php?t...3#pid48553

Your welcome to do what you want to with it ... I am just here to tell ya so that later on you can't say you weren't warned properly. I see the result of poor workmanship by the typical repair shops on here all the time. It has become genuinely difficult to find anyone that is willing to go the extra mile towards building an engine 100% properly any more, and that is sad.