Cm2250
02-20-2017, (Subject: Cm2250 ) 
Post: #16
RE: Cm2250
(02-19-2017 )Squish099 Wrote:  Any idea what the cost is, had a shop in Effingham quote 2800 for removal. But when they had a truck in their bay switching out a bad vgt for a nonvgt was kinda as far as I went there..

Price range (give or take ) is fairly typ of a 2250 if you take it to one of the places rawze mentioned above. Those guy, especially Mr. Hag/Vin go all out with it + custom tuning + pyro-boost gauges, run overhead, custom power and torque curves based on your needs and truck specs, re-program turbo properly, pressure test fuel system, engine sensors replaced to ensure proper run, basicly whole engine gone through & checked + more. It takes a entire day from morning till night & is a LOT of work. Esp when you consider 2250 need scr can cut open and weld back when doen right and all other cans dealt with, gauges installed into dash so you can monitor engine, save fuel and everything else.

If you looking for a "cheap deal" through having it done remote, etc. It can be done somewhat, but I feel sorry for you. Some people have no choice because they drive local only so they do this but it is far less than optimal. In your case considering the problems you are showing with it then it would be a dumb move to go this way. That whole "Cheap deals" mentality belongs in a chineese grocery store, not in trucking. it is a mentality in trucking that will cost you far more and lead to nothing but chasing your tail nonstop. Everyone learns this the hard way & is not a way to run a trucking business. - Most proper solution always leads to most money saved in the end. esp when it comes to the engine & equipment. without it you are not in buisness.

Someone need to go through truck & find out why it had those emm issues to begin with. 95% it is because something on engine was not running up to spec and the emm system suffered & failed as a result. Not fixing the engine problems makes everything else a waste of time.


As far as take it somewhere the trouble is WHERE and WHO because it is VERY hard to find someone willing to do this right and stand behind it. Very few so called tuner shops even know very basic things like proper air fuel ratio, what compression ratio of engine compared to boost, and what final firing angles should be at what rpm and torque vs displacement and s oforth. All most know is how to dump program stolen off internet in and make it go yet they all claim to be expert. Then you have issue with it later and they tell you you need to remove turbo like a moron.

Anyone quick to recommend to take off the most fuel effecient turbo going for ISX. The Holset VGT. and put on a turbo that will cause black smoke in lower RPM range, lower fuel economy in most applications, and have a less response is a complete moron. - Shops do those thing because they are too dumb to re-program turbo after such drastic changed to exhaust and intake. Then shortly after the turbo blows up so they resort to putting crappy non-programmable turbo on in attempt to make more money off of you instead of fixing their bad program. Its a plague for ISX like a bad virus that spreads out of ignorance from one shop to the next and from one truck owner to the next becasue they dont know any better.

I have seen lots of trucks from "effingham" -- Every person i met that had something done by them later hate it and had to spend more money fixing that crap. Makes me feel bad for the truck that you say is getting done. The poor truck owner will find this forum in half a year and regret everything he did. -- Shops like that are a dime a dozen and have fancy websites and pictures of pretty trucks on them and talk a big game so beware.


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There is a lot of ignorant people in trucking that spread bad information and bad practice like virus. Dont get caught up in this it only costs u money. Keep following bad advice and there is no hope for someone. People on this forum seee it every day and a lot of guys here already been down that road. It leads to headache and wasted money and anger from being duped into paying money for bad things in the end. Don't swap emisios problems with engine problems. That is what most people do before learning the truth & they always regret it.


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Messages In This Thread
Cm2250 - Squish099 - 02-19-2017,
RE: Cm2250 - Squish099 - 02-19-2017,
RE: Cm2250 - scottydogtruck - 02-19-2017,
RE: Cm2250 - Squish099 - 02-19-2017,
RE: Cm2250 - Rawze - 02-19-2017,
RE: Cm2250 - Squish099 - 02-19-2017,
RE: Cm2250 - jimeneztrans84 - 02-19-2017,
RE: Cm2250 - Squish099 - 02-19-2017,
RE: Cm2250 - Magard - 02-19-2017,
RE: Cm2250 - Squish099 - 02-19-2017,
RE: Cm2250 - Rawze - 02-19-2017,
RE: Cm2250 - Squish099 - 02-19-2017,
RE: Cm2250 - kkrug74 - 02-16-2018,
RE: Cm2250 - halfpint - 02-22-2017,
RE: Cm2250 - Squish099 - 02-23-2017,
RE: Cm2250 - Magard - 02-19-2017,
RE: Cm2250 - Rawze - 02-19-2017,
RE: Cm2250 - Squish099 - 02-19-2017,
RE: Cm2250 - invalid name - 02-20-2017
RE: Cm2250 - Squish099 - 02-20-2017,
RE: Cm2250 - Squish099 - 02-21-2017,
RE: Cm2250 - Nilao - 02-21-2017,
RE: Cm2250 - Squish099 - 02-21-2017,
RE: Cm2250 - Squish099 - 02-22-2017,
RE: Cm2250 - Rawze - 02-22-2017,
RE: Cm2250 - Squish099 - 02-22-2017,
RE: Cm2250 - sbtrucking - 02-22-2017,
RE: Cm2250 - Squish099 - 02-22-2017,
RE: Cm2250 - snailexpress - 02-22-2017,
RE: Cm2250 - Squish099 - 02-22-2017,
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RE: Cm2250 - Magard - 02-22-2017,
RE: Cm2250 - snailexpress - 02-23-2017,
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RE: Cm2250 - Squish099 - 02-24-2017,
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RE: Cm2250 - Squish099 - 02-24-2017,
RE: Cm2250 - Magard - 02-24-2017,
RE: Cm2250 - Nilao - 02-24-2017,
RE: Cm2250 - Rawze - 02-24-2017,
RE: Cm2250 - Squish099 - 02-24-2017,
RE: Cm2250 - Rawze - 02-24-2017,
RE: Cm2250 - Squish099 - 02-24-2017,
RE: Cm2250 - Rawze - 02-24-2017,
RE: Cm2250 - Squish099 - 02-24-2017,
RE: Cm2250 - Rawze - 02-25-2017,
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RE: Cm2250 - Magard - 02-28-2017,
RE: Cm2250 - Rawze - 02-28-2017,
RE: Cm2250 - Squish099 - 02-28-2017,
RE: Cm2250 - jimeneztrans84 - 02-28-2017,
RE: Cm2250 - Squish099 - 02-28-2017,
RE: Cm2250 - jimeneztrans84 - 02-28-2017,
RE: Cm2250 - Squish099 - 02-28-2017,
RE: Cm2250 - halfpint - 02-28-2017,
RE: Cm2250 - Squish099 - 03-01-2017,
RE: Cm2250 - Rawze - 03-01-2017,
RE: Cm2250 - Squish099 - 03-02-2017,
RE: Cm2250 - halfpint - 03-02-2017,
RE: Cm2250 - Squish099 - 03-02-2017,
RE: Cm2250 - overshot - 03-04-2017,
RE: Cm2250 - halfpint - 03-04-2017,
RE: Cm2250 - jimeneztrans84 - 03-02-2017,
RE: Cm2250 - Squish099 - 03-02-2017,
RE: Cm2250 - JMBT - 03-03-2017,
RE: Cm2250 - Squish099 - 03-03-2017,
RE: Cm2250 - JMBT - 03-03-2017,
RE: Cm2250 - Squish099 - 03-03-2017,
RE: Cm2250 - Rawze - 03-03-2017,
RE: Cm2250 - Squish099 - 03-03-2017,
RE: Cm2250 - overshot - 03-04-2017,
RE: Cm2250 - Squish099 - 03-04-2017,
RE: Cm2250 - TDInewguy - 03-14-2017,
RE: Cm2250 - Squish099 - 06-04-2017,
RE: Cm2250 - kkrug74 - 02-16-2018,



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